Dota 2 strength carries cuts

General Discussionstrength carries

Do strength carries just kind of suck in general right now? My combined record with tiny, sven, dk and ck in ranked is 26-37, 41% win rate. I do much better with doom and wk but they aren’t exactly carries, more like utility semi carries. My lycan win rate is fine too, but is he really a str carry or more like a pusher? Idk, distinctions don’t matter I guess, just wondering if these types of carries aren’t that great for the current meta or if I suck badly with them. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle but of the four guys only sven has a positive win rate at 50.6%. Dk is a pretty abysmal 45% putting him in the bottom third of all heroes this month.

I feel like basically these guys just get non stop kited and cc’d either before getting bkb or as soon as it wears off late game. Bkb reliant heroes don’t seem to be doing that great lately.

yah, feels like thats true
jugg troll pa void all agi carrys been picked a lot and actually win

right now they kinda do. Others just farm too much better THIS patch and since winning by fast push is rare, you don’t need them to tank your way through.

4 wins – 1 losses with Tiny
3 wins – 2 losses with Sven

Those were my games with them in the past 10 days. No idea whatchu talking about. The main reasons you have negative winrate with Sven was your item build. You realize you never won a game where you didn’t build blink? Satanic isn’t a bad item either but you don’t get it before you have any attack speed items.

Your Tiny has horrible itemization.

And I honestly don’t recommend playing Chaos Knight hard carry in pubs. He has no farming mechanism so everytime he falls behind, he will NEVER catch up. Not a very good hard carry pub hero. Much better as a semi-carry with other semi/hard carries on your team.

ur tiny has 49% wr my has 58% of over 300 games, i know tiny is prutty shitty right now even after the 2 mini buffs. ur comaring 2 heros to like 30 ur kunkka dsnt look too good ether. And Im putting my tiny stats as experience over a lot of games, I know tiny.

My tiny is all over the place cus I don’t play him much.

But I don’t know how can you lay a blanket statement like blink is required to win sven games. Let’s take the last 10 games, which is when I posted a sven thread asking for builds and started making armlet core and not rushing daedulus. 5-5 in that span. Games with blink 4-3. Games without 1-2. So I don’t see how you can say you only ever win with blink when I also lost 3 out of 7 games even with blink. Also of the three games without blink one was super short so never had chance to get it, one we were so far behind it didn’t matter, went bigger items instead, and the third was a big mistake not building it. We were so far ahead I thought I could rush heart and have armlet, mom, heart by like 22 mins. But team started diving hard core, I followed them like a lemming and we ended up losing. That one I needed the blink.

Anyway I have been trying to follow zenoth’s sven advice and go mom, armlet then blink. Maybe I need to rush blink more, idk.

^i think the best way is to rush mom+pt into blink and after that armlet.
with pt+mom you can clear stacks and farm a really fast dagger, andwith a really fast dagger+mom you can kill heroes early game and get gold for armlet.

Well agi carries have a much easier path then. You can build like 12 different things on troll and still win easily.

kunkka is a very fun hero to play imo, regardless of WR.

!attacker seems to do pretty well with him when i watch anyway